Mansfield, John (ward relative) Great great grandson of SGN HLS: Bulletin: Harvard's Good Servant Page 1 of 2 Harvard Law Bulletin (http://www.law.harvard.edu/news/bulletin/) Tribute Harvard's Good Servant John H. Mansfield '56 retires after instilling a "desire to respond" in generations of Harvard Law students By James A. Sonne '97 Leah Fasten "Professor Mansfield has never stopped seeking understanding of what makes life SO worth living." John Mansfield has graduated from Harvard at last. Beginning as a student over a half century ago-and with the notable exception of successive clerkships for Justice Roger Traynor of the Supreme Court of California and Justice Felix Frankfurter-Professor Mansfield's journey in law has taken place entirely at the Harvard Law School, as he is fond of calling it. Impressive as such longevity is, he has left a mark on Harvard-and on my life as well-that is even deeper than it is wide. When he retired from teaching in July, Professor Mansfield capped a rich chapter in his life and the history of our school. He is one of the last of a great generation, having shared the joys and struggles that marked the times with dearly departed friends and colleagues such as Mark Howe, Phillip Areeda and David Westfall. In many ways, he is a man of "the old school" who believes, as Professor David Rosenberg once observed, that "one good question is better than 10 good answers." At the same time, his work in comparative and interdisciplinary areas exemplifies the cutting edge of legal thought. Professor Mansfield is perhaps best known to former students for his evidence and church-state courses. He was a demanding yet warm teacher who embodied the "education by expectation" that he SO admired in his hero, Justice Frankfurter, and honored in a 1965 Harvard Law Review tribute to the justice. In his scholarship, he has written landmark works on the jury system, scientific evidence, law and religion, and legal history, and has written extensively on the law of India. All his work shows the dexterity of mind and clarity of thought of a true teacher-scholar. http://www.law.harvard.edu/news/bulletin/2008/fall/tribute.php 1/18/2012 HLS: Bulletin: Harvard's Good Servant Page 2 of 2 John Mansfield is among the most engaging, and engaged, men I've ever known. Many can remember sitting in the glow of their favorite professor's office on a crisp Cambridge afternoon. With Professor Mansfield, such a meeting was an event. Always in coat and tie, he had a demeanor as refined as that of any 10th-generation Bostonian. Yet, as one born and raised in San Francisco, he possessed a curiosity of the most modern sort. Whether discussing Madison's "Memorial and Remonstrance" or why people would want tattoos, it mattered little. He was always thinking, and pushing you to do likewise. A man of deep conviction, Professor Mansfield has never stopped seeking understanding of what makes life SO worth living. This pursuit of truth and goodness will continue in retirement in both scholarship and, even more important, his life away from campus. As his friend Jeff Meller told me, "John waiting until his seventies to marry in 2003 tells you everything. In his mind, it may have taken the world, or God to be more precise, decades to deliver Maria Luisa into his life, but here she is, and isn't she just wonderful." John Mansfield inspired me to become a professor myself, and his guidance has been critical in my hope of helping to bring a passion for life and learning to another generation of lawyers. To borrow from his tribute to Justice Frankfurter, he is a teacher, mentor and friend who "knew of what poor stuff we were made. 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JOHN HOWARD MANSFIELD MANSFIELD, John Howard Of Brookline, MA, died on April 10, 2014 at the age of 85. He was the John Watson Professor of Law (Emeritus) at Harvard Law School. Beloved husband of Maria Luisa Fernandez y Espinosa and loving brother of Charlotte Mansfield Murphy, Mary Elinor "Polly" Mansfield Post, and Diana Mansfield Russell. Son of the late Lewis Mansfield and Elinor Perkins of Boston. John was spiritual and intellectually active Roman Catholic, for fifty years he attended Saint Paul Church in Cambridge. Since 2012 he attended Saint Mary of the Assumption Parish in Brookline. John H. Mansfield earned his A.B. from Harvard College and his L.L.B. from Harvard Law School. He then served as clerk for Justice Royer Traynor of the Supreme Court of California and Justice Felix Frankfurter. He joined the faculty of Harvard Law School in 1958, retiring in 2008. He was completely dedicated to the Harvard Law School, where he worked for a half-century. He left a profound mark on the school, as well as on every student he taught and advised. Many of his much-loved foreign students have kept in touch with him and his wife over many years. He was, indeed, a member of the last great generation, together with his friends and colleagues Mark Howe, Philip Areeda and David Westfall. To be well prepared, on time, and appropriately dressed for class came naturally to John. His work in comparative and interdisciplinary areas put him in the avant-garde of legal thought. Professor Mansfield was known for his brilliant courses in constitutional law, evidence, and issues of church and state. As James A. Sonne wrote in The Harvard Law School Bulletin (Fall 2008): In his scholarship, he has written landmark works on the jury system, scientific evidence, law and religion, and legal history, and has written extensively on the law of India. All his work shows the dexterity of mind and clarity of thought of a true teacher-scholar. Funeral Mass at 10 a.m. on Wednesday, April 16 at St. Mary of the Assumption Church at 3 Linden Place in Brookline, 02445. A Novena at St. Mary will follow: May: Monday 26 at 9 a.m.; Tuesday 27 at 12:10 p.m.; Wednesday 28 at 12:10 p.m.; Thursday 29 at 12:10 p.m.; Friday 30 at 12:10 p.m.; Saturday 31 at 8 a.m. June: Sunday 1 at 10:30 a.m.; Monday 2 at 12:10 p.m.; Tuesday 3 at 12:10 p.m. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to: *Holy Land Christian Ecumenical Foundation. www.hcef.org which is dedicated to helping Christians concerned about Christianity's survival in the Holy Land. *Saint Boniface Haiti Foundation. www.haithealth.org which provides healthcare to the poor in the rural area of Fond Des Blancs in Haiti through Saint Boniface Hospital. *Doctors Without Borders/Medecins Sans frontiers. www.doctorswithoutborders.org which is an international medical humanitarian organization treating people where the need is greatest. 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Funeral Mass at 10 a.m. on Wednesday, April 16 at St. Mary JOHN MANSFIELD Obituary - Brookline, MA I Boston Globe com OBITUARIES FUNERAL HOMES SEND FLOWERS NEWS & ADVICE MEMORIA weanesaay 28 at 12:10 p.m.; inursaay LY at 12:10 p.m.; Friday 30 at 12:10 p.m.; Saturday 31 at 8 a.m. June: Sunday 1 at 10:30 a.m.; Monday 2 at 12:10 p.m.; Tuesday 3 at 12:10 p.m. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to: *Holy Land Christian Ecumenical Foundation. www.hcef.org which is dedicated to helping Christians concerned about Christianity's survival in the Holy Land. *Saint Boniface Haiti Foundation. www.haithealth.org which provides healthcare to the poor in the rural area of Fond Des Blancs in Haiti through Saint Boniface Hospital. *Doctors Without Borders/Medecins Sans frontiers. www.doctorswithoutborders.org which is an international medical humanitarian organization treating people where the need is greatest. 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He authored important works in the areas constitutional law. At KARAMAH he lectured on Islamic family law in American courts. Professor Mansfield to Media V. Aleem, a case that was adjudicated in Maryland at the time. After Maryland's highest court decided the cas gathered additional facts, and then wrote in 2008 the article "Marriage in Pakistan- Divorce in Maryland," wh website. He followed this article with a sequel in 2009 which is also posted. After 2010, Professor Mansfield's him to continue teaching at LLSP. Yet Professor Mansfield and his wife Maria Luisa Fernandez, an Islamic art inquire about the KARAMAH students. On October 12th of this year, a memorial celebration took place at the Harvard Law School in honor of Profe Mansfield. We were there to share in the celebration, and his photograph with the KARAMAH students was 0 learned that Professor Mansfield's library was donated to the National Law School of India University (Banga chair was donated to the Harvard Law School's special collection, where it now resides at the Caspersen Roo used this chair in his home and following his death it found its way to Felix Frankfurter, for whom Professor ultimately to Professor Mansfield himself. We at KARAMAH are grateful for having someone of the caliber of Professor Mansfield teach at our Law & Le He left behind a lot of enlightened and motivated young Muslim women, and a better understanding of Islar and First Amendment jurisprudence. We miss him deeply and pray that he rest in peace and that Mrs. Manst love and appreciation surrounding the memory of her husband. For more on Professor Mansfield's life and accomplishments, see here. 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In a 1963 letter to his secretary Elsie Douglas, Frankfurter named Mansfield as one of a few individuals "whom I deem wholly qualified to write my judicial biography." Howe and Mansfield spent nine years together on the Harvard Law School faculty and like Holmes and Frankfurter carried on a close friendship. Mansfield greatly enjoyed the chair, sitting in it every day after work and explaining to visitors the story of the legal greats who sat in the chair before him. All of the chair's former owners were Harvard Law School alumni and faculty members SO it is extremely fitting that the chair's final home should be the Law School. The chair is the gift of John Howard Mansfield and Maria Luisa F. Mansfield and can be viewed in the Caspersen Room, 4th floor, Harvard Law School Library. 5/29/2017 John H. Mansfield 56: 1928-2014 - Harvard Law Today HARVARD LAW Today today.harvard.edu John H. Mansfield 56: 1928-2014 April 21, 2014 Of the old school, and on the cutting edge John Howard Mansfield1, the John H. Watson, Jr. Professor of Law, Emeritus, and scholar of the First Amendment, died on April 10, 2014, at the age of 85. He joined the faculty of Harvard Law School in 1958 and was known for his courses and scholarship in constitutional law, evidence, and issues of church and state. Harvard Law School Dean Martha Minow said: "John devoted his professional life to Harvard Law School. He was a good friend and a mentor to many of us, as well as to SO many students. He will be greatly missed." Mansfield was a demanding yet warm teacher who embodied the "education by expectation" that he SO admired in his hero, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter LL.B. 1906, whom he honored in a 1965 Harvard Law Review tribute. "As generations of Harvard students can testify, John Mansfield relentlessly adhered to and expected the highest standards of excellence in his classrooms, in and out of season," said HLS Professor Mary Ann Glendon 2 "As a scholar, he relentlessly searched for truth, unafraid of where his quest would lead him. As a colleague, he was kind and generous. It was a Credit: Leah Fasten privilege to have known him." "Professor Mansfield has never stopped seeking understanding of what makes life so worth living." In a tribute 3 to Mansfield published in the Fall 2008 issue of the Harvard Law Bulletin, James Sonne'97 wrote that his former professor was "among the most engaging, and engaged, men I've ever known." Sonne continued: "All his work shows the dexterity of mind and clarity of thought of a true teacher-scholar." evidence. In his scholarship, he wrote landmark works on the jury system, scientific evidence, law and religion, legal history, and the law of India. 2 He was author of the book "Evidence: Cases and Materials, with 2005 Supplement" and several shorter works and articles. His article "The Religion Clauses of the First Amendment and Foreign Relations," published in 1986 in the DePaul Law Review, has been cited 4 as the first scholarly work to consider the First Amendment's Establishment Clause abroad, five years before a court had ever considered the issue and 15 years Credit: John Chapin before 9/11. John Mansfield joined the HLS faculty in 1958. After graduating from Harvard College and HLS, Mansfield served as clerk for Justice Roger Traynor of the Supreme Court of California and then for Justice Frankfurter on the Supreme Court. In July 2008, Mansfield retired from Harvard Law School. In the Bulletin tribute written for that occasion, Sonne wrote: "He is one of the last of a great generation, having shared the joys and struggles that marked the times with dearly departed friends and colleagues such as Mark Howe, Phillip Areeda and David Westfall. In many ways, he is a man of 'the old school' who believes, as Professor David Rosenberg once observed, that 'one good question is better than 10 good answers.' At the same time, his work in comparative and interdisciplinary areas exemplifies the cutting edge of legal thought." Links 1. http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/directory/10553/Mansfield 2. http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/directory/10311/Glendon 3. http://www.law.harvard.edu/news/bulletin/2008/fall/tribute.php 4. http://works.bepress.com/jesse_merriam/17/ 5. https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?s=100&p[title]=John+H.+Mansfield+%E2%8o%9956%3A+1928%E2%8o% 32014&p[url]=https%3A%2F%2Ftoday.law.harvard.edu%2Fjohn-h-mansfield-56-1928-2014%2F&p[images][0]=https://today.la w.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/HLB_1008_8484.jpg&p[summary]=Of+the+old+school%2C+and+on+the+cutti g+edge+John+Howard+Mansfield%2C+the+John+H.+Watson%2C+Jr.+Professor+of+Law%2C+Emeritus%2C+and+scholar+of +the+First+Amendment%2C+died+on+April+10%2C+2014%2C+at+the+age+of+85.+He+joined+the+faculty+of+Harvard+Law +School+in+1958+and+was+known+for+his+courses+and+scholarship+in+constitutional+law%2C+evidence%2C+and+issues+ of+church+and+state.+Harvard+Law+School%C2%AoDean+Martha+Minow%C2%Aosaid%3A+%E2%8o%9CJohn+devoted+h S+professional+life+to+Harvard+Law+School.%C2%AoHe+was+a+good+friend+and+a+mentor+to+many+of+us%2C+as+well+ as+to+so+many+students.%C2%AoHe+will+be+greatly+missed.%E2%8o%9D+Mansfield+was+a+demanding+yet+warm+teach er+who+embodied+the+%E2%8o%9Ceducation+by+expectation%E2%8o%9D+that+he+so+admired+in+his+hero%2C+U.S.+S upreme+Court+Justice+Felix+Frankfurter+LL.B.+1906%2C+whom+he+honored+in+a+1965+Harvard+Law+Review+tribute. +%E2%80%9CAs.. 6. com/share?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftoday.law.harvard.edu%2Fjohn-h-mansfield-56-1928-2014%2F&via=Harvar d_Law&text=JohnH.Mansfield'56:1928-2014 https://today.law.harvard.edu/john-h-mansfield-56-1928-2014/ 2/2 Great-great grandson of SGN VOLUME 128 DECEMBER 2014 NUMBER 2 Pp. 521-539, HARVARD LAW REVIEW © 2014 by The Harvard Law Review Association IN MEMORIAM: JOHN H. MANSFIELD The editors of the Harvard Law Review respectfully dedicate this issue to Professor John H. Mansfield. THE BEST CLASSROOM TEACHER IN THE WORLD Anthony D'Amato* Professor John Mansfield walked into the classroom and then walked out of the classroom. That's all I knew about him. Law pro- fessors did not hold office hours for students back in the late 1950s, SO as far as I could tell he may have been commuting from Neptune. But the hours he shared with us are deposited at compound interest in my memory bank. No - more than that - those hours are part of who I am. Because, you see, Professor Mansfield was the best classroom teacher in the whole wide world. What did he do in the classroom that was SO great? He asked questions. He only asked questions. He never actually said anything (except once, unfortunately, which my duty of full disclosure requires me to reveal no later than by the end of this humble tribute). So many questions! So many more questions! He'd toss questions at us over his shoulder, SO to speak. He had a quasi-British accent, tremolo in the upper vocal register, hinting at a playful sort of sarcasm. After class my newly acquired friends - no, I should call them my colleagues - no, back in those days the correct terminology would have been my competitors - were jabbering things like: "Did you get anything out of that session?" "Apart from a headache?' * Leighton Professor of Law, Northwestern University. 521 Page 1 of 1 RE: George Bucknam Dorr & Samuel Gray Ward From "John Mansfield" To Date Thu, 21 May 2009 11:19:17 -0400 Dear Mr. Epp, Thank you for getting in touch with me. Don't come to Cambridge if it would interfere with satisfying a deadline with your publisher, and congratulations for having found a publisher for your book. We have to go to Washington on the 15th of July, but anytime before that would be fine for lunch. I hope your health issues are not serious. Best wishes, John Mansfield Original Message From: eppster2@myfairpoint.net [mailto:eppster2@myfairpoint.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:23 PM To: John Mansfield Subject: George Bucknam Dorr & Samuel Gray Ward Dear Professor Mansfield, I appreciate your persistence in trying to reach me after the past two years of silence. My apologies for not continuing our email correspondence. My only explanation is preoccupation with tracking down archival resources led to the neglect of other responsibilities, such as meeting you in Cambridge. Despite some significant health issues, I've managed to secure a publisher for the Dorr biography, the Library of American Landscape History/University of Massachusetts Press, an editor, and publication deadlines that I'm trying my best to honor. I've got the next month to complete the first half of the manuscript with the remainder due by December. Since your most recent message expressed interest in learning about this branch of the family, I'd be delighted if we could meet in Cambridge for lunch in the months ahead. Would July be workable? I think you'll be pleased to learn what I've written thus far about the Endicott family's relationship to Mr. Dorr. By the way, you asked about Dorr's father's name: Charles Hazen Dorr (1821-1893), his father was Samuel Dorr, the President of New England Bank and the Boston Athenaeum who owned a residence on Pearl Street that had belonged to James Perkins. He moved to Tremont Street at the foot of Park Street, where C.H. Dorr was born, within eye shot of #4 Park Street, the residence of Thomas Wren Ward, Mary Gray Ward Dorr's father. Her son, George Dorr, resided here as a child for several years prior to the onset of the Civil War Much more to tell! Looking forward to hearing from you. Ronald H. Epp, Ph.D. 47 Pondview Drive Merrimack, NH 03054 (603) 424-6149 eppster2@myfairpoint.net https://webmail.myfairpoint.net/hwebmail/mail/message.php?index=885 5/21/2009 Page 1 of 1 Re: Ward-Perkins Papers From "John Mansfield" To "ELIZABETH and RONALD EPP" Date Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:05:35 GMT Dear Mr. Epp: I would be glad to have lunch with you sometime when you are down here. My office phone is 617-495-3141. S.G. Ward's beautiful house, Highwood, still stands on the Tanglewood grounds. It is used for parties and rehearsals. I had not heard of High Lawn. My recollection is that Thomas Wren Ward was also on the Visiting Committee to the Harvard Philosophy Department. In that connection he must have had to do with George Dorr, if they were on the committee at the same time. I know nothing about the 1941 article about Tom Ward by Margaret Snyder. Who was she? Have you a copy? TWW died in 1940. Was 4 Park St. owned by SGW? You probably have read SGW's Letter to My Children, included in The Ward Papers. He describes being taken by his father or grandfather in a carriage from their house in Medford -- which they had moved to from Salem--to the bank in Boston. I don't know when the Ward's moved to Boston Oddly enough, my father, Lewis P. Mansfield, was a student and big fan of Royce's, but I doubt he realized that the Spirit of American Philosophy had been dedicated to Mary Gray Ward Dorr. How did Royce come to know Mary Dorr? Finally, when the Dorrs lived in Jamaica Plain, was it in one of the Perkinses' houses? Many questions! I look forward to meeting you, John Mansfield https://webmail.myfairpoint.net/hwebmail/mail/message.php?index=154 5/13/2009 Page 1 of 1 John Mansfield From: John Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 2:32 PM To: 'ELIZABETH and RONALD EPP' Dear Ron, You may recall that a little over two years ago we had an exchange of e-mails in regard to a book you were working on relating to George Bucknam Dorr. At that time you indicated that you were going to come to Cambridge and have lunch with me and discuss the Ward- Dorr connection. What happened? I hope you have not abandoned your book, which I thought was on a very interesting subject. My invitation to lunch still stands. Best wishes, John Mansfield Dear Ron, This e-mail was refunned to me marked undeliverable." Have you changed your e-mail address? Formunately I discurrend your home addness. JM. 5/8/2009 Page 1 of 1 Ward-Perkins Papers From "John Mansfield" To Date Wed, 04 Apr 2007 15:36:34 GMT Dear Mr. Epp: Mr. Tony Lewis at the UC library in Santa Barbara has forwarded your inquiry to me. I guess George Bucknam Dorr, / the person you are interested in, was the nephew of my great great grandfather, Samuel Gray Ward. SGW was the brother of Mary Gray Ward Dorr, the mother of your subject. In the few family papers I have, I do not find anything about your man. You might look in Harvard's Houghton Library. My grandmother, Elizabeth Ward Perkins and my cousin, Louise Thoron Endicott gave a large number of Ward papers to the library in 1942. Also, the Mass. Historical Soc. has Samuel Gray Ward's letters to Mary Gray Ward. I remember my cousin Louise Hooper Thoron describing the father of your subect as "long suffering." Do you know what the father's name was? Was it also George? Charles Hazen Dorr I had no idea the son was involved with Acadia National Park. I would be very interested to learn more about this branch of the family. Sincerely, John Mansfield 8/17/19: Moria L. monsfield 227 Summit Ave., Apt. W308 Brookline, MA 02446 617-739-0616 https://webmail.myfairpoint.net/hwebmail/mail/message.php?index=155 5/13/2009 Verizon Yahoo! Mail - eppster2@verizon.net Page 1 of 4 Verizon Yahoo! Mail Verizon Central Yahoo! Search: Web Search Welcome, eppster2@verizon Mail Home Tutorials Help YAHOO! verizon [Sign Out, Member Center MAIL Mail Addresses Calendar Notepad Mail For Mobile - Options Check Mail Compose Search Mail Search the Web Folders [Add Edit] Previous Next Back to Messages Inbox (24) Delete Reply Forward Move Draft This message is not flagged. [ Flag Message - Mark as Unread Printable View Sent Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 12:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Bulk (1) [Empty] "ELIZABETH and RONALD EPP" Add to Trash [Empty] From: Address Book Add Mobile Alert My Folders [Hide] Subject: Re: Ward-Perkins Papers Eliz messages To: "John Mansfield" Member Information Dear Professor Mansfield, Ron messages What a delight to hear from you! Search Shortcuts Let me provide you with a few details about George Bucknam Dorr (1853-1944) My Photos and hope that you are sufficiently interested so that we can continue this My Attachments exchange, perhaps even meeting when I next venture to Houghton later this Spring. Mr. Dorr graduated from Harvard in 1874 and following the death of his sole sibling two years later his father (Charles Hazen Dorr, 1821-1893) and mother (Mary Gray Ward Dorr, 1820-1901) spent several years traveling again in Europe before returning to America to begin work on property purchased on Mount Desert Island (ME); the family has initially resided in Jamaica Plain but moved to the Ward townhouse at 4 Park Street before relocating to one of the first homes built on Commonwealth Avenue, #18. Here G.B. Dorr spent much of his life before selling the property following his mother's death, relocating to The Somerset Club. Their Bar Harbor estate was designed by Gardiner (ME) architect Henry Richards, the husband of Laura E. Richards, the first woman to win the Pulitzer Prize and a daughter of Julia Ward Howe. Situated on Frenchman Bay, the hundred acre estate was named "Old Farm" where Mary Dorr--well seasoned in the art of being the kind of hostess that Mark A. De Wolfe Howe so well characterizes in A Venture in Remembrance--entertained high society. Her husband is a most difficult character to trace but fortunately The Dorr Papers at the NEHGS offer ancestry information that is greatly detailed due to the efforts of George Dorr. His paternal grandfather (Honorable Samuel Dorr) was a merchant and later President of New England Bank; he resided on Tremont Street and was one of the original proprietors of The Boston Athenaeum. Several of his children later moved to the Berkshires and lived on a family estate called High Lawn very near to the Lenox property purchased, developed, and farmed by Samuel G. Ward following his marriage; both properties were incorporated into Tanglewood. The Dorr family tracks back to the Englishman Edward Dorr (1649-1734) who settled in the Casco Bay in 174 http://us.f842.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter?MsgId=9949_6006485_109112_724_5044_ 4/5/2007 Verizon Yahoo! Mail - eppster2@verizon.net Page 2 of 4 before relocating to Boston where he lived on Hanover Street. Much more lineage information to relate, perhaps at a later time. George B. Dorr drifted back into graduate work at Harvard in the early 1880's and developed close involvements with William James and Josiah Royce, who both vacationed at Old Farm; Royce dedicates his Spirit of American Philosophy (1891) to Mary Gray Ward Dorr. Mr/. Dorr's enthusiasm for horticulture and the conservation of natural resources leads him to open in 1896 the Mount Desert Nurseries in Bar Harbor while accepting in Cambridge responsibility for the Harvard Philosophy Visiting Committee. His relationship with Charles W. Eliot, who had a summer home on Mount Desert Island since the the 1870's, is maturing and Harvard's President charges him with raising funds for the erection of a Harvard facility to promote philosophical thought. For several years Mr. Dorr will lead the effort to raise funds for the first academic facility in America devoted exclusively to Philosophy. Two years after the Emerson Centennial in 1903, Emerson Hall was dedicated. Dorr then plays a significant role in binding Emerson's name to a Harvard facility in a way that has endured over the last century, though I strongly suspect that few in the Harvard philosophy department at this time are aware of this fact. On Mount Desert four years earlier, President Eliot joined with Mr. Dorr to establish in Hancock County a conservation organization modeled on the Massachusetts Trustees of Reservations that the President's son had established in the early 1890's before his untimely death. The Hancock County Trustees of Public Reservations was inspired by Eliot but Dorr was the executive on site agent who amassed the 5,000 acres through donations that led in 1916 to the establishment of the Sieur de Mont National Monument which three years later became Lafayette National Park, renamed Acadia National Park in 1929. Both Eliot and Dorr worked tirelessly on this project enlisting the support of John D. Rockefeller Jr. who resided since 1910 in Seal Harbor and built the carriage road system that then was interlaced with the Park motor roads. Dorr was Park Superintendent 1916-44 and his role as a conservation pioneer is a tale little recognized by environmentalists. I became interested in Dorr's life following repeated visits to Mount Desert in the 1990's. The few piecemeal and largely amateurish renderings of his life had one thing in common: no one had asked about Dorr's life prior to 1901 when the Trustees were established. | could not understand why at 48 years of age Mr. Dorr would invest his energies in this endeavor. What factors in his heritage prompted such a commitment? Anecdotal information was a wild assortment of fact and fancy: that he was a "mama's boy, that he inherited on her death a million dollar estate, that he purchased land later donated to the government at such a feverish pace that it impoverished him, etc. Beginning in 2000 I started researching the surviving documents visiting the National Archives, the Rockefeller Archive Center, MHS, NEHGS, and scores of special collections in regional historical societies. I've presented many papers on this research, quite a few publications, and now have more than 200 draft pages of the Dorr biography completed. My credentials include a doctorate in philosophy and twenty years of teaching at the U.S. Naval Academy, the Universities of Memphis and Hartford. Following a graduate degree in library science I spent four years as Managing Editor of a monthly journal published by the Association of College and Research Libraries. For the last fifteen years I have been director of libraries at the University of Hartford and Southern New Hampshire University. I am not sure how much of my communication with Tony Lewis was forwarded to you, but I would very much like to get a better grasp of Dorr's relationship http://us.f842.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter?MsgId=9949_6006485_109112_724_ 4/5/2007 Verizon Yahoo! Mail - eppster2@verizon.net Page 3 of 4 with his cousin, Thomas Wren Ward. The Margaret Snyder 1941 article on Tom Ward (The Other Side of the River) refers to a decade of correspondence between Snyder and Ward. Do you have any knowledge of whether that correspondence is extant? I hope that this response gives you some insight into another limb on your family tree. I know I have many questions that it would be fruitful to discuss with you. Please do not hesitate to contact me at your convenience regarding the Dorr and ward families. It is my hope that we might meet for lunch when I I visit Cambridge later in April or May. Most Cordially, Ron John Mansfield wrote: Dear Mr. Epp: Mr. Tony Lewis at the UC library in Santa Barbara has forwarded your inquiry to me. I guess George Bucknam Dorr , the person you are interested in, was the nephew of my great great grandfather, Samuel Gray Ward. SGW was the brother of Mary Gray Ward Dorr, the mother of your subject. In the few family papers I have, I do not find anything about your man. You might look in Harvard's Houghton Library. My grandmother, Elizabeth Ward Perkins and my cousin, Louise Thoron Endicott gave a large number of Ward papers to the library in 1942. Also, the Mass. Historical Soc. has Samuel Gray Ward's letters to Mary Gray Ward. I remember my cousin Louise Hooper Thoron describing the father of your subect as "long suffering." Do you know what the father's name was? Was it also George? I had no idea the son was involved with Acadia National Park. I would be very interested to learn more about this branch of the family. Sincerely, John Mansfield Ron Epp 47 Pond View Drive Merrimack, NH 03054 (603) 424-6149 eppster2@verizon.net Delete Reply Forward Move http://us.f842.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter?MsgId=9949_6006485_109112_724_5044_ 4/5/2007 8/20/2019 Xfinity Connect Re Dorr family Printout RONALD EPP 8/20/2019 8:15 PM Re: Dorr family To Valerie Edwards Dear Valerie, Thank you for responding to my inquiry. I have attached a portion of a paper I delivered nearly a year ago which explains a few of the motivations that led me to the Ward and Dorr families. Of course, the extensive Ward Papers at the Massachusetts Historical Historical Society and U.California Santa Barbara provided me with much more than I could read and include in my talks and publications. Sam's relationship with his sister Mary Gray Ward --Dorr's mother-was very tight in their youth but weakened over time. But I must disagree with your discounting "a close association or deep friendship" between the two families, for the documented evidence in these archives belies this claim. I spell out some of this in my Creating Acadia National Park: The Biography of George Bucknam Dorr (2016). Your book is scheduled to arrive here on the 25th and I am sure it will prompt additional observations that I would like to share with you. Finally, the Petronella Persson Dorr that you referenced shared no ancestry with my Dorrs who traced their ancestry back nine generations to Edward Dorr's emigration from the southwest coast of England in the mid-17th century. Ronald H. Epp, Ph.D. 7 Peachtree Terrace Farmington, CT 06032 603-491-1760 eppster2@comcast.net On August 20, 2019 at 12:38 PM Valerie Edwards wrote: Sent from my iPad Dear Ronald: Interesting about your interest in Samuel Gray Ward, my husband's Great-Great Grandfather who seem to have the same characteristics as my husband, Donald Ward Bennett Edwards. I never ran across in my years of research a close 8/20/2019 Xfinity Connect Re Dorr family Printout association or deep friendship of Samuel with the Dorr family. But because both families were part of Boston's Brahman society, it can be accepted that they knew each other. On the other hand, on my husband's Bennett side, his Great-Grandmother was Petronella Persson Dorr who was adopted by James and Lydia Dorr, who had no children. Petronella had lost her parents and one sibling on a ship traveling from Sweden. She married Edward Lynch, born in Nova Scotia in 1836. He was a master stair builder who built a family home in Dorchester where his daughter, Lydia Lynch was married and lived the rest of her life. In 1956, I visited the home with my boyfriend, later husband, and I marveled at the staircase which had never had carpeting and appeared to have no wear. They are buried in Forest Hill Cemetery on a plot they bought in the 1800s. Their daughter, Lydia Lynch, a graduate of Wellsley in the class of 1899, is buried there with her husband, Frank Bennett and their two children and my husband. If you have anymore questions I certainly am willing to answer if I can. Good luck with your research. It is an enjoyable endeavor. Lenox1018.Edwards819.docx (35 KB) 8/29/2019 Xfinity Connect Inbox Re: Dorr family Valerie Edwards 8:45 AM To RONALD EPP Thank you or your kind and gracious e-mail. Since we inherited all the letters and other items in 1986 | became fascinated with this family, especially Samuel and Bessie whom I so much identified. Although we came from different backgrounds we had similar lives and dreams. I started at the Harvard Houghton Archives where I experienced a Kafkalike experience after registering and relinquishing all personal items I was told to sit in front of the closed doors until I was summoned. As I waited I wondered what I would find, if anything, when finally the door opened an an archivist greeted me. She asked what I was looking for and when I stated the Ward papers, she asked which ones. I had no idea so she suggested she select a file. When I opened the file I was confronted with one of those letters where the writer wrote over their previous lines which sometimes took me days to transcribe. She smiled and said they all wrote that way. I later went to UCSB where the archivist was Bessie's granddaughter. Her brother, John Mansfield, was an eccentric law professor at Harvard who warned me not to do his grandmother in. John, who I first met in 1956 and was clerking for Supreme Justice Felix Frankfurter certainly was a well know character at Harvard and died not too long ago, unfortunately before he knew I had finished the book. Do not know if in his mind if I had done his grandmother in. I was in Boston a few weeks ago and did bring many of my documents to give to the Massachusetts Historical Society and promised I would bring more when I returned. I am keeping other items related to the book which are the gold nugget necklace, some Woodbury paintings and the signed Rodin photo. I still have not found who the sculpted lady was and forgot to bring it to the Rodin museum the last iMessage I was in Paris. There is a bust of Bonnemaman in the National Gallery in Washington D.C. I certainly would be willing to answer anymore of your questions and would like to ask a simple request to ask if you could write a review on my Amazon site. I need to find the time to find a good publisher. Time as we grow older flies like a bird in a jet stream. Thank you again for your interest and kind words. Valerie Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2019, at 11:52 AM, RONALD EPP wrote: Dear Valerie, I completed reading "The Chess Queen" this morning. Bravo! Your skillful use of historical documents in creating an "imaginary" family saga was well done, a talent that | lack but recognize when it is done with profound dramatic effect. You gave new and vivid life to this family that has been--in the words of friends of mine- -a personal academic obsession. 020 Xfinity Connect Re_My Twitter Printout RONALD EPP 2/25/2020 11:52 AM Re: My Twitter To Valerie Edwards Valerie, Just a brief note to let you know that I am still engaged on daily research into your Ward Family ancestors by marriage. Moreover, I have had considerable success with Samuel Gray Ward and his activities during the Civil War period. Mostly secondary sources since as one ages it is not always easy to visit the requisite archives. Have you heard back from the Massachusetts Historical Society regarding the status of your gift? I still hope to mine the Ward-Perkins archives (at UCSB) later this Spring, requesting photocopies of several hundred pages that interest me the most.l have attached a skeletal ancestry chart. If you wish a more complete one with drawn linkages, give me your snailmail address. Yours, Ron Ronald H. Epp, Ph.D. 7 Peachtree Terrace Farmington, CT 06032 603-491-1760 eppster2@comcast.net On November 16, 2019 at 4:47 PM Valerie Edwards < valerieed@icloud.com> wrote: connect.xfinity.com/appsuite/v=7.10.0-29.20200221.054051/print.html?print_1582649634860 1/2